485: Dr. Kanwal Bawa on Overcoming Most cancers, Sexual Well being and Biohacking


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Good day, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie, from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this podcast is all about a tremendous story of overcoming most cancers and in addition about sexual well being and biohacking. I’m right here with Dr. Cabell Bawa, who’s a Board Licensed doctor and founding father of Bawa Medical and Chief Medical Officer on the New Wave. She is dedicated to her philosophy of rejuvenation from the within out. And on this episode, she shares her story of overcoming breast most cancers and in addition turning into a magnificence queen. And the explanation that she really did that and the way she used that platform to point out her scars and to point out her hair loss and all of the issues that got here alongside together with her most cancers analysis and to carry consciousness. She additionally talks rather a lot about some taboo subjects. we speak about sexual well being fairly a bit and a few actually shocking statistics on well being and hormones associated to each women and men, and the way these change over time and with age, and in addition methods to assist enhance them. So, undoubtedly, a fact-packed episode, her story is actually unbelievable. And with out additional ado, let’s be a part of her.

Katie: Dr. Bawa, welcome, and thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks for having me.

Katie: I’m so excited to listen to extra about your story and your experience as a result of it looks as if you may have each private {and professional} expertise in a few areas which are extraordinarily relevant to lots of people proper now. However to begin broad, I’ve learn that you’ve a very, actually attention-grabbing and superb story about overcoming most cancers, which as we all know, statistically is on the rise proper now and, sadly, many individuals will obtain a analysis of sooner or later of their lives. After which not solely overcoming that, however turning that into one thing actually stunning and empowering and superb. So can we begin by studying a little bit extra about you and your story?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Thanks a lot for that. I used to be misdiagnosed with my breast most cancers for nearly three years. I initially found my lump after I was nonetheless in my late 30s and my gynecologist tried to blow me off and inform me that I actually didn’t meet conventional threat components, that I used to be nonetheless not 40, insurance coverage wouldn’t cowl it. And I used to be a little bit perplexed as a result of I believed it was in regards to the affected person, not the, , the numbers. So it took a variety of convincing. I did get a mammogram, however then they misinterpret it. They received an ultrasound, however they misinterpret that too. And this occurred for a number of years in a row. So lastly, I insisted that there was one thing very fallacious. They thought I used to be neurotic, and it was okay. I didn’t actually care at that time. I knew one thing was fallacious and I needed to be an advocate for myself.

So at that time, I ended up going to a unique hospital. I ended up going to the College of Miami Sylvester Most cancers Institute, and I can truthfully say that the docs there saved my life. So if we get nothing else from our time collectively, I would like ladies and even males to know that after they really feel that there’s one thing fallacious with them, that they have to insist and to not take it mendacity down, to not let anyone inform them that they’re being loopy, that they’re being hypochondriacs. When you now. And nevertheless, , this occurred to me and whereas this was not one thing that I anticipated, I had a selection. I may let most cancers defeat me or I may make it about one thing greater than myself. So, I, of all issues, determined to affix a magnificence pageant. Now you could surprise why at age 43, I felt the necessity to be a part of a magnificence pageant. It’s as a result of I discovered as a most cancers affected person that my fellow most cancers sufferers had given up on themselves. They felt that most cancers was going to defeat them. And I truthfully imagine that when you assume it would defeat you, it completely will. You’re proper come what may.

So for me, I used to be by no means going to undergo most cancers. It needed to be about making one thing good come out of one thing horrible. And so, I made a decision to affix Miss Florida to encourage most cancers sufferers to dwell their finest life regardless of most cancers. To indicate them that pleasure mustn’t finish, and that they’re no much less stunning, even when they’ve scars, even when they lose their hair. So, I went on stage 4 weeks or so after my mastectomy. I had my scar seen, I refused to cowl it with make-up. It might have been straightforward to take action, but it surely was a matter of precept. I additionally went on stage with no extensions and no wig. I purchased a wig, I simply couldn’t carry myself to put on it as a result of I wished to talk my reality. And after I received Miss Florida, it was an enormous win, not only for me, however for most cancers sufferers and people present process adversity of any sort. So, in so some ways, , my story has been discovered to be inspirational for that, and I’m very blissful as a result of that’s what that is about.

Katie: That’s superb. And two issues actually stood out to me in that. The primary being the significance of advocating for ourselves in relation to medical care. And I had an identical expertise in a a lot much less ominous analysis, however I, for years, knew one thing was fallacious and would go to docs and ask for assessments. And I suspected it was my thyroid. And equally was advised, “Properly, you’re not in a high-risk group. All of these items are regular postpartum. Your ranges are advantageous.” And so they had been solely testing, after all, sure ranges. And I needed to advocate for myself for a few years with a number of docs to lastly get a analysis that then helped me recuperate. And also you hear about this rather a lot within the medical world. And sadly, it looks as if it usually occurs extra to ladies than males actually because I feel many research are carried out on males as a result of they’re simpler to review.

However I feel…I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I feel the very best outcomes, and also you may agree from a physician’s perspective, occur when you may have a affected person who’s invested and well-informed and advocating for themselves, and in addition desirous to work with a practitioner as a associate in bettering their very own well being. And the opposite factor you mentioned that I feel is so vital on this and in truthfully, each space of life is that mindset piece. And the concept when you assume one thing will defeat you, it would. And in addition if in case you have a constructive mindset, that goes such a great distance towards the restoration. How vital do you assume that mindset piece was for you and for different individuals in the identical scenario?

Dr. Bawa: I really like what you mentioned as a result of so many docs aren’t testing you totally, even when they do take a look at you. And I’m so blissful that you simply had been an advocate for your self and also you discovered what was fallacious. And so far as mindset is worried, mindset in my case was every little thing. And this will likely appear dramatic, however this can be a true incident. I had some problems throughout my most cancers therapy and I used to be in my chemotherapy suite. My blood ranges had been tanking for lack of a greater phrase to say it. And one among my nurses began to cry. She simply felt horrible for me that I used to be taking two steps ahead and 5 steps again it appeared each time we circled. And after I noticed tears in her eyes, I consoled her and I mentioned to her, “It’s okay. It actually is. I can be advantageous. And never solely am I going to be advantageous, in just some months, I’m going to be Miss Florida.” And she or he laughed as she cried. And that is an honest-to-goodness story. This actually occurred.

And I needed to clarify to her that I used to be not going there for a participation medal, I used to be in it to win it as a result of it was not value doing if it was not value doing totally and properly. So, I hope that my story has despatched a bigger message to individuals typically about mindset, about perseverance. And I feel that if I didn’t have that mindset, if I didn’t have that perseverance, I don’t know that I’d have made it so far as I did and had the result I did as a result of a lot of most cancers is miserable. I’m not saying that there wasn’t any despair on my finish, there was. I selected to not dwell on it. So I feel that’s the principle factor.

Katie: And I additionally love that you simply reframed that and didn’t conceal from the struggles or attempt to cowl the scars of that and let that truly be an outward, like, witness to your struggles in order that it may open a dialog about that. I feel usually in society, there are such…very outlined requirements of what female magnificence seems like and that stress to really feel good and to not have scars and to not have something that’s not thought-about, , bodily good. And doubtless by doing that, you gave ladies freedom to be who they honestly are in so some ways, and to not have to take care of this phantasm of perfection. And from what I’ve learn, additionally that was a big a part of your motive for competing as properly is that you simply had been in a position to shine a highlight on different most cancers sufferers and on that as properly, proper? You used your platform to carry a variety of consciousness there as properly.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. I spoke on stage about how I used to be misdiagnosed. I wished to boost consciousness for most cancers misdiagnosis, in addition to inform most cancers sufferers that life doesn’t finish with a most cancers analysis, that there’s a lot stuff to sit up for. Now, happening stage and the gown I selected and with the hair and make-up I selected was an announcement. I didn’t select a gown that lined my chest. I may have. There are lots of robes I may have worn which are completely stunning that didn’t present my scars, that didn’t present my uneven breast dimension. However I went on stage as is. I used to be utterly uneven. Issues had not been finalized but with my second surgical procedure. I nonetheless haven’t had it, however I didn’t let that govern my selection of gown. This was about, once more, one thing greater than myself. So, I went there with my uneven cleavage, my scar seen, and quick hair with some areas that had been extra thinning than others. And this was vital to me as a result of I don’t need individuals to assume that most cancers is just not stunning. Most cancers is simply as stunning as the rest. And I feel that that was an important message to ship to the world. And I feel it’s a message that resonated. My win redefined magnificence after most cancers.

Katie: And I can solely think about how at first overwhelming a most cancers analysis should really feel. And I hear from individuals, sadly, like I mentioned, most cancers appears to be on the rise throughout the board, who obtain a analysis and, , overwhelmed and surprise the place to even begin searching for sources. So I’m curious if there have been issues that had been useful to you in establishing that mindset piece whenever you had been going by that and/or that helped issues to do to bodily help your self by that course of and to verify your physique was nourished and in a position to recuperate?

Dr. Bawa: , it’s attention-grabbing how life labored out for me. I used to be not likely…as a part of my medical observe, I based and owned Bawa Medical in Boca Raton. It’s a wellness and rejuvenation-based observe. After I began this, after I conceived this observe, I used to be not pondering of most cancers. I used to be not pondering of what a most cancers affected person wants for help but satirically, my life took that path. So, in my case, I used to be very fortunate. I didn’t must go outdoors to look for lots of the issues I wanted. I may do IV remedy in my very own workplace as a result of I discovered it useful. Additionally, chemotherapy is so nauseating, you may’t eat properly, your dietary degree goes down at some extent whenever you want a better dietary degree to struggle that illness, to struggle that chemo as a result of chemo is doing fairly a quantity on you, it’s a poison, primarily. You want it. I extremely advocate it. It saved my life, but it surely’s a poison. Let’s not overlook that. So, how do you counteract that? I had IV remedy.

The opposite factor that occurs with most cancers is hair loss. I’m a hair restoration specialist. So I used to be very fortunate in that sense that I used to be in a position to do hair restoration inside my observe as a result of I really feel that most cancers hair loss is misunderstood. A lot of it’s about hair restoration the place in so many circumstances, it ought to be about hair loss prevention. No one thinks of it that manner, even my very own buddies mentioned I used to be being ridiculous that I ought to settle for it gracefully. They advised me I used to be being, , very superficial. And I mentioned, “It’s not about being superficial. It’s about combating it when you may struggle it.” When I’ve instruments, why not use them? So I did a bunch of various issues in my observe and I by no means went bald regardless of very robust chemotherapy. The chemotherapy I underwent was a mix of Taxol and Adriamycin and Cytoxan. To anyone who does most cancers remedies or has gone by most cancers remedies, they know the way robust that chemotherapy routine is but I by no means got here near being bald. I misplaced the size, by no means the precise hair, , on my head. So did that.

I additionally did pores and skin remedies at my very own observe as a result of chemotherapy causes a variety of pores and skin harm and hyperpigmentation. So irrespective of how a lot sunscreen I used, I nonetheless had a variety of pores and skin harm. So, a variety of that I discovered I used to be uniquely positioned to assist myself. So this isn’t a plug for my observe in any manner. You requested how I received by it, a lot of it’s due to what I do for a dwelling anyway. Now, how different individuals would get by it, I extremely advocate that they attain out to their oncologist, ask for the sources close to them. Perhaps there’s a observe like me close to them. Perhaps there may be any person who can assist them save their hair. Perhaps there may be somebody who can assist them with wellness and IVs and, , serving to them with chemo-related pores and skin modifications and issues like that. As a result of, , it’s very miserable whenever you look within the mirror and also you don’t seem like your self anymore. It’s not about being superficial, you nearly don’t acknowledge who you might be. And there’s one thing to be mentioned for making an attempt to take care of what you may of your self by all of it.

I imply, there was some extent I had no eyebrows and no eyelashes. So I made a decision it was about mindset. I didn’t need to settle for that. So, I really went out and developed a product to develop lashes and brows that’s wholesome, that doesn’t change your eye shade and do harm to the pores and skin round your eyes. As a result of a lot of what’s on the market also can do harm. Individuals don’t speak about it. Like Latisse, does it work? Completely. However it may possibly trigger some modifications within the shade of your eye, for example. No one talks about that a part of it. So I made a decision that most cancers was going to be one thing that simply was constructive in each manner for me. So I even went and developed a pure product that I now have in my observe for that. So, a lot of that, , I used to be so fortunate, however I do advocate that they attain out to social staff, they attain out to help teams, and in my case, to buddies. My household doesn’t dwell right here. My household’s abroad. So my buddies had been my tribe. They had been those who helped me by all of it. My pal, Carmen, picked me up from chemo each single time. She simply took it upon herself. , it takes a village. I used to be very fortunate to have a really supportive village.

Katie: That’s stunning. And I feel that additionally illustrates what appears to be a false dichotomy that generally occurs in relation to most cancers therapy or any type of medical therapy. It looks as if usually there’s a pressure between the standard mannequin and the issues you might want to do medically and the wellness aspect. And it looks as if the very best outcomes really occur when somebody is ready to entry all of these issues, that it isn’t an both/or, however very a lot a each/and. And that you are able to do issues which are supportive of your physique and in addition supportive of hopefully, the method of therapy and serving to your physique recuperate extra rapidly. However that’s a very unbelievable story that hopefully provides hope to anybody else who may, sadly, be in the identical scenario. And also you talked about your observe, I’d like to delve into a few completely different areas right here as a result of I do know you’re employed with individuals in a wide range of other ways.

However one other space I hear rather a lot from ladies about proper now and I’m wondering if COVID may be a contributing issue right here, however is sexual wellness. And it looks as if there is a rise in sexual-related issues or simply libido and sexual satisfaction, particularly in ladies. I don’t know if that is present or when you’ve perhaps seen this for a very long time. So I’m curious when you’re snug sharing, when you had any of these struggles whenever you went by your chemo journey, but additionally the ways in which you assist handle that in your sufferers.

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Now, vaginal well being is one thing I’m very obsessed with. I do a variety of intimate wellness for each women and men at my observe, and chemo and most cancers remedies, most cancers drugs, even after chemo may cause a variety of modifications in a girl’s hormonal steadiness. It threw me into menopause. So, , there’s rather a lot that goes fallacious with most cancers and with ageing, typically. In my case, it was simply amplified due to the most cancers. However vaginal well being is one thing that may be very ignored. Girls take higher care of their automobiles than they do their vaginas, sadly. And I’m right here once more as an advocate for good vaginal well being. And like I mentioned about hair loss in relation to most cancers, why are we reacting? Why are we not stopping? I’m all about prevention as an alternative of therapy. So, I encourage ladies to return get vaginal rejuvenation at a youthful age. So a lot of my sufferers say, “Properly, I’m not that dangerous but.” And I’m telling you, it makes my head spin as a result of I need to clarify to ladies all over the world that they should deal with themselves sooner.

In the event you handle the issue earlier, youthful, you may have higher outcomes long-term. Your vagina will age otherwise. It’s not simply your face that’s ageing, it’s your vagina as properly. So I’m very huge in my observe on FemiWave. It’s acoustic wave remedy, actually utilizing sound waves to carry higher blood circulation into your vaginal space, typically, not simply your clitoris, your labia, your pelvic ground, all of it wants good blood circulation. So this breaks down blockages and blood vessels like plaques. , it’s not simply your coronary heart and the arteries in your coronary heart which have blockages as you grow old, blood vessels all over the place develop blockages. So that is to advertise good, wholesome blood circulation. And that makes your pelvic ground stronger, which is one other factor that goes with age and childbirth and every little thing else. I’m not saying that we’re curing incontinence, we’re definitely making an enormous stride in direction of minimizing it with this.

So I like to recommend it to ladies of all ages. It additionally makes ladies extraordinarily orgasmic, which is only a fantastic plus level with it. So, we do O-Photographs at our observe, however we additionally do FemiWave due to the fantastic, fantastic results we’ve with it. And there’s little question, and that’s the great thing about it. We do vaginal laser rejuvenation as properly at my observe with CO2. Now I’m not by any means saying something unfavorable about CO2, there’s a time and place for it. However I discover that FemiWave is one thing that helps ladies throughout the board. I truthfully have an issue making an attempt to even inform you as a girl it won’t work. And what? Typically the query is, “Who will it assist?” I feel the query with FemiWave is completely different, “Who will it not assist?” And I truthfully can’t consider anybody it wouldn’t assist in some form or kind. In order that’s one thing that I’m very blissful to be doing. And we at the moment are a middle of excellence with each FemiWave for ladies and GAINSWave for males. And I really feel that we’re doing a lot good to society, typically, by serving to individuals this manner.

Katie: So that you talked about that like that ageing course of occurs there as properly, particularly simply as part of regular ageing. And I do know ladies report extra pelvic ground points, particularly after childbirth, which makes full sense as a result of there’s some intense trauma that may occur throughout childbirth for lots of girls. And I assume that this additionally impacts the sexual expertise fairly a bit and sexual well being that manner. Are there different components, like for example, you talked about that that type of pulled you into menopause? I do know menopause usually impacts sexual well being for ladies. Are these items that you simply do in your workplace in a position to assist type of handle the, like, sexual satisfaction aspect of that even after menopause for ladies?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. What I do may be very complete. I really feel the completely different components of what I do are very synergistic with one another. As an illustration, I don’t simply do hormone substitute, I wish to name it hormone balancing as a result of there’s an imbalance in lots of features of our life as we age, as we struggle completely different illnesses. In my case, it was most cancers, however in your case it’s thyroid illness. It’s no much less traumatic to your system. So I attempt to optimize well being. I attempt to optimize wellness, typically. So I wish to take my sufferers and see them as the larger image, not only one a part of what I’m doing. So I’d optimize your hormones. I’d optimize your diet and your metabolic scenario with IV remedy. I’d do, , GAINSWave when you’re a person, I do FemiWave when you’re a girl. These are issues that assist everybody. I can not think about supplying you with a subset that it could not assist. In some form or kind, it would assist everybody. After which I fine-tune it additional. Does any person want, , for example, a vaginal laser? We are able to all the time do this. Do the boys want some type of treatment? We are able to do this. So I feel that this needs to be seen as an even bigger image and never bits and items.

Katie: I agree. It looks as if the very best outcomes in any realm occur whenever you handle the physique as an entire and work and help its pure processes versus countering them. In that realm, are there issues that you simply discovered useful personally or that you simply advocate to your sufferers that they’ll do at dwelling which are supportive, whether or not it’s sure dietary practices? I do know prefer it looks as if sleep and hydration are throughout the board all the time good suggestions. I’m but to have anybody in 500 friends on this podcast say sleep is just not vital and hydration doesn’t matter, however are there stuff you encourage your sufferers to do to assist enhance the results of those remedies and in addition that had been useful to you whenever you had been going by your journey?

Dr. Bawa: In fact, mindset was the primary factor for me. I felt that something I may do to calm my thoughts was useful. I feel meditation is underrated. I don’t assume that you must sit for an hour and, , stare on the area to meditate. I feel meditation could be various things to completely different individuals. The concept is to calm your thoughts. If that’s by taking a stroll, if that’s by listening to a bit of music you discover soothing. It doesn’t matter what it’s, I feel you might want to calm your thoughts and discover steadiness inside your self above all. After which I feel that hydration is an excellent factor. As you talked about, hydration is a fundamental factor. In case you are not hydrated, then nothing works properly. Your pores and skin, your well being, typically, nothing works properly with out hydration. Nutritionally, I’m not telling you you must eat natural, it’s not all the time possible, however no matter you’re consuming, I do advocate making an attempt your finest to have a extra inclusive food regimen, extra fruit and veggies, not taking any group out of your food regimen.

As an illustration, chemo can result in a variety of weight achieve. It’s a fallacy when individuals assume that each one most cancers sufferers drop a few pounds. Some achieve. I did. So I feel the concept is to not say that, “Oh, let me do keto. I’ll drop a few pounds,” or let me do that or that, I’ll drop a few pounds. I feel a balanced, nutritious diet with smart parts is vital. It’s a boring factor to say, I do know. There’s nothing dramatic about what I’m saying, however that’s vital. Steadiness is vital in each side. After which, after all, I feel when you could find a physician close to you who can assist you with the issues that helped me. I used to be fortunate, I occurred to be doing this anyway. All I needed to do was come to work and, , all of this was accessible to me, however search out practitioners who imagine in a holistic lifestyle, who’ve of their observe one thing that may assist you. Now, sexually, for example, we’ve talked about FemiWave. In case you are someplace the place you don’t have a FemiWave supplier, we also have a system. In the event that they contact us, we will all the time ship it to them. It’s an at-home intimate wellness system that makes use of the identical idea of sound wave expertise and makes use of sound waves to interrupt up blockages and produce good blood circulation into the vaginal space. It’s not as robust as what we do within the workplace, but it surely’s a beautiful adjunct for some other therapy or the rest you’re doing in your life. In the event you can’t get to us personally, not less than use this at dwelling. It is rather useful.

Katie: And I’m curious when you can converse to perhaps in simply generalities or perhaps particular circumstances with out utilizing figuring out particulars, however what sort of causes individuals usually want these sorts of remedies? Like, I feel most individuals perhaps don’t understand that you simply see these type of blockages in all tissue, not simply in your coronary heart, like individuals perceive in that degree. However it could appear to be growing blood circulation could be a reasonably dramatic shift. What sort of outcomes do individuals sometimes see?

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness, I’ve a YouTube channel, Bawa Medical, and one of many movies I posted nearly every week in the past is a few gentleman who is sort of 69. His girlfriend is 4 months older than him and so they’re having the very best intercourse of their lives. They’ve each had remedies from us. The gents had GAINSWave and he says that, , they’re having intercourse not less than as soon as a day, if not twice a day. And generally they’ve nooners. That to me is inspirational for anyone half his age, not to mention any person who’s nearly 70 years outdated. So are we seeing outcomes? We’re completely seeing outcomes. We’re altering lives. What we do is transformational. At my observe, I’m giving them a brand new lease on life. It doesn’t matter what age you might be. If in case you have an issue, there’s no level in denying it, settle for it, discover assist, and dwell your finest life. Are you aware that 20% of males of their 20s endure from erectile dysfunction? No one thinks that the 20s may carry dysfunction, but it surely’s completely true. It’s a identified reality throughout the scientific group that 20% of males of their 20s have it, 30% of their 30s, 40% of their 40s. It simply goes up about 10% per decade of life.

Now, such as you mentioned, we don’t all the time have these research in ladies. There’s a glass ceiling for ladies and never simply within the workforce, sadly. We are sometimes blown off, we’re referred to as histrionic, hysterical, , hysteria, the idea of hysteria, , whenever you look again at how the time period started, it’s very denigrating to ladies. So I’m not right here to say that…, I’m not right here for a ladies’s lib dialogue, I’m simply right here to say that girls, we don’t all the time have the research for us, we don’t all the time have the statistics for us, however now we’ve choices and we must always go make the most of them. Do that for yourselves. Get some assist. There’s assist on the market.

Katie: And I do know that it’s been a comparatively dramatic shift, these decline in hormone ranges and the rise in ED, even in younger males. And I do know we see low testosterone, even in younger males. I’ve even seen some statistics that males usually can have a 3rd of the testosterone their grandfathers did on the similar age. And to me, that speaks to the truth that we all know that we’ve had huge environmental modifications which are resulting in a few of these issues. Our meals provide has modified. So now it turns into vital to be extra proactive. When we’ve extra unfavorable inputs that we’ve to cope with, we’ve to turn out to be extra proactive in counteracting these issues. And to circle again to what you mentioned too about food regimen as properly, and consuming a balanced, nutritious diet and never coming from a spot of deprivation, I feel that’s one thing that uniquely impacts ladies extra as properly due to food regimen tradition and due to a few of these issues we talked about early on.

And it looks as if many ladies wrestle with the mindset of with the ability to nourish their our bodies sufficient and with the ability to eat sufficient diversified meals to essentially really help our physique. So I really like that you simply introduced that up as a result of that’s one thing I’ve mentioned on right here earlier than is we’ve to shift that mindset once more, with mindset being so vital away from like meals is dangerous. There’s guilt connected to meals. I must food regimen and be thinner, to I really like and settle for my physique, how can I nourish it to one of the best ways attainable? How do I help it? How do I help its pure processes of detoxing, of anti-aging? Our our bodies are so unbelievable in what they’ll do, they simply want a little bit bit extra help in as we speak’s world as a result of they’re going through greater than they’ve previously.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now, I hope I can contact on…you mentioned so many fantastic issues. I want I used to be writing as a result of… And I’m going to return as soon as we report this and really speak about this alone social media platforms as a result of what you mentioned is profound. Now you introduced up dropping testosterone ranges. Are you aware that sleep deprivation in males is inflicting decrease fertility, decrease testosterone ranges? Once more, that’s one thing individuals don’t speak about. It’s not a horny subject, but it surely’s true. Sleep deprivation is inflicting that. Now you mentioned earlier about…you mentioned one thing easy, you mentioned, I do know that sleep and hydration are quite simple. Sure, they’re easy, however they’re so profound. In the event you don’t get sufficient sleep, you may have decrease fertility. So when you may have decrease fertility, that impacts so many various features of your life, and that’s only one instance of what sleep deprivation does.

So then you definitely talked about, , different modifications which are taking place, different issues which are taking place with tradition, the place we’re made to really feel lower than. Now, I used to be a dimension 0-2 after I was identified with most cancers, I’m in all probability a dimension 6 proper now. And I’m not being arduous on myself. I’m not depriving myself. Don’t get me fallacious, I’m not consuming all the bread basket. But when I desire a slice of bread, I’m consuming it. I’m not ingesting a ton of alcohol, but when I’d like a glass of wine, I’m permitting myself a glass of wine sometimes. I feel we must be kinder to ourselves as ladies and as males. I feel society may be very robust on us. I feel there’s this complete idea of superficial magnificence. And that’s why I went to Miss Florida as a result of I used to be combating that idea of conventional magnificence. I went at my heaviest. I went after I was nonetheless swollen from my mastectomy. I used to be nonetheless, , coping with fluid retention. I feel the idea of magnificence must be modified. Magnificence must be present in no matter stage you’re in. And it’s not about others making you are feeling stunning, that feeling wants to return from inside.

I perceive that society must be kinder to individuals going by struggles. I get that. And that’s a given. However that power wants to return from inside us. While you look in that mirror, you might want to see somebody stunning, somebody robust, somebody who has persevered. We have now all gone by struggles in life. We’re all winners in our personal manner. I could have gone to medical college. I could put on a protracted white coat. My successes are completely different than your successes. We’re the one ones who know what a hero we’re and we have to really feel that. That’s what I need to do, encourage individuals to feeling and being their finest. It wants to return from inside actually.

Katie: Yeah, I agree. That was an vital mindset shift for me as a result of such as you, I struggled with the bodily modifications of thyroid illness and simply of getting six infants in 9 years. It was rather a lot for my physique to course of. And the mindset piece, I’ve talked about this a little bit bit earlier than on this podcast, however issues didn’t actually begin shifting bodily till I addressed that mindset piece. And after I may take a look at the mirror and discover love and acceptance for myself, it grew to become a lot simpler to function from a spot of nourishing my physique as an alternative of combating it and loving it as an alternative of depriving it. And that made all the distinction. I feel you’re proper, that like that magnificence has to return and that appreciation and that love and acceptance and pleasure has to return from inside. And as ladies, that additionally provides us the flexibility to be that for different individuals as properly. However it may possibly’t come from a spot of not having it for us to start with. And a few extra notes I had on my present notes I wanna be sure that we contact on, I’ve learn and heard about ladies affected by one thing referred to as anorgasmia, which appears to be on the rise as properly. Are you able to clarify why that’s taking place? And whether it is on the rise, why you assume it may be on the rise proper now, after which how ladies can handle that?

Dr. Bawa: There are lots of explanation why ladies are having issues orgasming. For one, I don’t know that many people understand that solely 18% of girls can orgasm from vaginal intercourse, from the penetration itself. So there are various things at play right here. One, we have to make our companions conscious that oral stimulation or exterior stimulation is extra vital. We have to have higher vaginal well being, typically. Like I mentioned, we have to carry higher blood circulation into the realm to get up our nerves, to get up our blood vessels. I feel individuals who have anorgasmia or who’ve painful intercourse…these are two completely different points. Some individuals are having painful intercourse. Some individuals are not having painful intercourse, however they’re getting nowhere when they’re having intercourse. There are lots of components to this. So I feel wellness as an entire is gonna contribute to it after which schooling that there’s a downside. It’s okay to have that downside. And it’s okay to discuss that downside. While you handle it along with your physician and also you inform your physician, “Pay attention, I’ve no sensation. I’m not getting there,” then I feel there are just a few vital components to this.

That you must converse to a therapist. There are therapists who specialise in sexual remedy and sexual wellness, and so they can assist you with this. Relating to the physique itself, there are docs like me who do FemiWave, who do hormone balancing, who will assist you with the O-Shot and make you extra orgasmic. So there are completely different instruments that you might want to assist your self with. Once more, it’s not only one factor, I want there was only one factor, however there are a bunch of issues you are able to do to assist your self. And so they all contribute. I feel all of them work collectively higher synergistically and any one among them by themselves. So I feel there’s rather a lot on the market. We simply must get that assist.

Katie: And I feel having the dialog, I do know like all sexual well being subject is a little bit bit taboo and, like, I feel it raises eyebrows each time I speak about it on right here, however I feel the dialog can be essential as a result of we all know that that’s tied into total well being. And to your level, I feel this can be a subject that isn’t talked about sufficient, particularly for ladies. We definitely see all of the commercials for all of these points for males. And it looks as if when males have a wrestle with that, it turns into an important, imminent factor to repair. However ladies, I really feel like usually are extra hesitant to speak about it or really feel like one thing’s fallacious with them and really feel disgrace round it. And to your level, I didn’t understand it was that drastic of a statistic, however for a lot of ladies, simply penetrative intercourse usually isn’t sufficient, however that’s one thing that they really feel dangerous speaking about or they really feel like they’re not regular due to that. And so I feel opening the dialog and letting them understand that there are alternatives and issues that may assist a lot, however even simply beginning that dialog and taking that disgrace and that societal notion away from it’s such an vital first step for ladies. And I’m so glad we’re in a time when there are issues like this accessible and we’re beginning to lastly have this dialog.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now I get in hassle generally on my social media although. I’ve very dignified posts. I’m not exhibiting something that’s express. I imply, my posts aren’t pornographic, however even Instagram and Fb will generally take my posts off as a result of I discussed intercourse or one thing sexual. Now, I’m a medical physician, I’m not doing something inappropriate, however there may be disgrace even to that extent. Now let me inform you one thing completely unbelievable. I made a decision to take my youngsters on a trip and shut the workplace for every week and my assistant went on a trip together with her household. We imagine in having a life at Bawa Medical, we’re allowed to go on trip. We closed down our workplace and we received an answering service to reply our calls in order that sufferers may not less than make and alter appointments whereas we had been gone for simply 5 enterprise days.

Are you aware that I received a name as soon as I used to be already in one other city from my answering service and so they mentioned to me, “Sorry, Dr. Bawa, we all know we talked to you and we set this complete account up, however we can not reply your calls as a result of some individuals name for vaginal rejuvenation, and that’s an inappropriate subject.” I mentioned, “Are you severe? Vaginal rejuvenation is inappropriate?” We’re not calling a porn channel, we’re not calling, , “Hustler” or “Playboy.” These are, , individuals calling the physician’s workplace. Why is that this taboo? And so they mentioned, “Properly, it’s embarrassing and it’s inappropriate.” I mentioned, “What about vaginal well being is inappropriate to you?” And these had been ladies telling me this. So, I used to be horrified, horrified that in as we speak’s day and age, within the 12 months 2021, my answering service decides to not take my calls as a result of I provide vaginal rejuvenation and that’s offensive to them. So there must be a mindset shift right here.

Katie: I agree. That’s type of astounding that sufferers contact their precise physician a few medical downside…like, to me that will be the identical as like much like a pregnant girl making an attempt to name her OB and being advised, “Oh, I’m sorry, we will’t speak about that as a result of your vagina is concerned.” Like, that’s astounding to me.

Dr. Bawa: I simply…, my head was spinning. I nonetheless bear in mind I used to be getting out of a cab in Philadelphia and I mentioned, “What a part of that is inappropriate? What a part of that is dangerous? Please clarify to me.” I actually requested the woman, I mentioned, “Ma’am with all due respect, do you may have a vagina? Do you ever discover that you simply need assistance from a physician to your vagina? I don’t count on you to reply that query,” I mentioned to her, “however how are you going to deny ladies the chance to make appointments for his or her vaginal well being?” So, I could provide you with a small instance of the answering service, but it surely signifies an even bigger problem. It’s not okay to speak about it normally. Why? We’re all men and women, I imply, sexual well being is vital. We’re all in a scenario the place we’ve the appropriate to have good, intimate wellness and to not be advised that it’s dangerous or soiled or upsetting to the typical one that’s listening to us. Why is it upsetting to individuals? What are we speaking about that’s inappropriate?

If it’s okay to speak about cardiac well being, why is it inappropriate to speak about sexual well being? Why is intercourse a unclean phrase? If it wasn’t for intercourse, you and I’d not be alive as we speak. It’s not essentially a foul factor. And why ought to we be denied high quality of life? An excellent intercourse life results in a greater relationship, results in a greater high quality of life. In the event you don’t dribble urine whenever you train, you aren’t gonna have higher cardiac well being. I imply, it’s an even bigger problem than simply about your vagina and your bladder.

That’s why I say that what we do at Bawa Medical is so transformational as a result of we remodel lives. And that’s why I feel that this must cease being such a taboo subject, that Instagram must cease deleting my posts after I speak about it, that YouTube must cease sending me, , little emails warning me in regards to the content material I’m placing out. Why am I being referred to as an issue little one as a result of I’m specializing in an issue that we’re all going through? So, a lot of this, there must be a shift in how we take into consideration this. It must be okay to speak. And that’s why I’m so blissful you’re speaking about it.

Katie: Properly, and also you’re so proper. I feel that the dialog is so vital. And for ladies simply to listen to that simply because these issues are widespread, it doesn’t imply they must be regular, or definitely that they must expertise them. I’ve had six infants, 5 of them got here out vaginally and I don’t dribble urine after I train or soar on a trampoline or sneeze. That doesn’t must be a factor. I feel many ladies assume that’s only a factor that occurs when you may have children, but it surely doesn’t must be. I feel beginning the dialog is step one towards it.

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And in addition a theme from this complete interview has been the mindset piece. And I feel that’s additionally an space the place there’s a lot alternative for all of us, however particularly ladies in relation to these subjects actually to have the ability to develop and enhance as a result of there’s a lot tied up in that.

And I’ve a observe in my present notes that when you had been going to present a TED Discuss, it could be on why you shouldn’t let adversity beat you down and that mindset piece. And I really like that regardless of all of your experience within the medical world, that that’s the factor that brings…is a very powerful to you. So I’d love to listen to a little bit bit extra about that as a result of I feel you’re proper, mindset permeates by every little thing and is so, so vital. So, I’d simply love to listen to a little bit little bit of your perspective on that, having been by adversity and never letting it beat you down.

Dr. Bawa: , every little thing about who I’m as we speak has been as a result of I made a decision to beat adversity. I used to be a sufferer of…and I don’t speak about this normally, and I’m going to attempt to not choke up about it as I speak about it, however abuse, abuses and…and right here I’m going once more. Abuse is one thing that’s an enormous deal. Abuse is one thing that goes throughout all academic, monetary boundaries. I used to be a sufferer of a variety of emotional, home abuse and ultimately bodily abuse as properly. And also you wouldn’t assume that a physician in my scenario would cope with that, however I did. I overcame that. I’m no longer in that scenario anymore, it lasted a few years. I received’t go into a lot element about it, however the level is it was a few mindset. One thing needed to change and I made a change. Most cancers, one thing needed to change, it couldn’t simply be about illness. It couldn’t simply be about vomiting. It couldn’t simply be about shedding hair. I needed to make it one thing that helped me turn out to be an even bigger individual, a greater individual. And I had to make use of my most cancers and my adversity to be a greater physician.

So, I’ve determined that it doesn’t matter what occurs to me in life, I’m going to make use of something unfavorable that occurs to me to assist me develop in no matter form or kind that may be, to point out my sons, who’re my world, that life is just not in regards to the negativity that occurs to us, it’s about what we select to do to rework it. And that’s why I feel that if I used to be to ever give a TED Discuss, I hope to sometime, you by no means know, it could be about beating adversity. Like, I discussed about Miss Florida, it was by no means a few pageant. It was a a lot greater factor than only a pageant. It was about redefining mindset of a most cancers affected person. It was about redefining the concept of magnificence in most cancers as a result of most cancers is just not alleged to be stunning, proper? That’s not how we’re raised to consider it. Most cancers is one thing that makes you lower than your self. You lose your hair, you lose your pores and skin, you achieve weight, you drop a few pounds, however both manner, you’re not at your finest. So we assume that meaning we’re not stunning. No, you might be simply as stunning if no more so as a result of now you may have overcome yet one more factor. So, adversity is one thing that helps me dwell a greater life. It doesn’t make sense, it’s nearly oxymoronic when you consider adversity and higher life, however that’s how I select to see it. Adversity for me is a chance for additional progress.

Katie: I totally agree having been by trauma in my previous as properly, I can now…I feel it takes some work and emotional shifts to get there, however I can now look again and have gratitude for all the teachings that got here from that and the issues that it allowed me to do and such as you, to assist different individuals by that have and thru that story. Similar factor with my thyroid. I by no means would have cared a lot for well being had I not been given a motive. And I’m so grateful that that shift occurred. I feel you’re completely proper that that mindset piece is so vital and that it isn’t what occurs to us, it’s how we select to interpret that, reply to that, and develop from that or not as a result of we definitely all the time have that selection as properly. For me personally, one of many books that was useful in that was referred to as “The Untethered Soul,” and it helped me to course of a few of these feelings. And that’s one other query I like to ask at this level in interviews is that if there’s a e book or various books which have had a profound impression in your life or your journey, and in that case, what they’re and why?

Dr. Bawa: I feel a e book that all the time comes up in my thoughts after I’m requested a query about books or a e book that has modified me is a e book referred to as “Outliers.” Outlier is a e book written by Malcolm Gladwell about achievement and failure and what defines a winner, how the winners are normally outliers on the tip of that spectrum a method or one other, and what number of instances you must do one thing to succeed, to turn out to be good at it. And I feel that it’s a lot about perseverance and about rising above the typical, above the norm that I feel is a e book that basically helps me proceed my journey in direction of self-improvement, in direction of attaining excessive requirements. I’m a excessive achiever. It doesn’t matter what I do in life, I don’t settle for mediocrity. Mediocrity to me is a four-letter phrase. “It doesn’t matter what you do,” my father as soon as mentioned to me, after I was about 5 years outdated, “if you wish to be a chef, have Michelin stars after your identify. If you wish to be a physician, be the perfect you could be.” So it’s not about what you do, it’s about excelling at it. , if you wish to be any person who does truffles for a dwelling, be Sylvia Weinstock. There’s greatness to be achieved in every little thing. In order that’s, , one thing that I feel “Outliers” helped me define in my very own life.

Katie: That’s stunning. I really like that. And I’ll, after all, put hyperlinks to your observe and to some put up referring to a number of the subjects we’ve talked about as we speak for any of you guys listening, particularly in case you are within the Florida space and need to discover Dr. Bawa and study. These hyperlinks can be there. However any parting recommendation for our listeners as we speak, whether or not it’s on mindset or well being or any of the subjects we’ve mentioned?

Dr. Bawa: I feel if I may really give two items of recommendation when you’ll let me, I feel I’d wish to say two issues. Firstly, ladies, please go get examined, do month-to-month exams. They’re not simply one thing in a textbook, they save lives. They saved mine. So be higher advocates for yourselves, that is vital. If there’s one thing fallacious, go discover assist. And in case your physician blows you off, blow the physician off, discover one other physician who will take heed to you. Secondly, I’d say, I imagine in high quality of life, be it in your sexual well being, be it in what you see whenever you look within the mirror. In the event you’re not blissful along with your hair, do one thing to make your hair higher. There may be assist on the market. In the event you’re not having the very best intercourse of your life, do one thing to make your self have the very best intercourse of your life. Whether or not it’s balancing your hormones, whether or not it’s doing one thing like FemiWave, whether or not it’s, , doing one thing nutritionally. No matter it’s that you simply’re not pleased with, don’t be complacent. So a lot of my sufferers say, “Properly, I’m not that dangerous but.” That idea is senseless to me. Why would you wait until that time? Why would you wait until your life within the bed room is an entire catastrophe earlier than you make it higher?

Why not go do one thing like FemiWave, for example, the place it’s received no downtime, it’s not painful? Do one thing for your self. In the event you’re having points along with your hormones and also you’re having sizzling flashes, converse to your physician about optimizing your hormones. Try this. So, I feel, dwell your finest life, no matter meaning to you. In no matter form or kind you may elevate your existence, do it.

Katie: I really like that. And I feel that sums up a variety of what we talked about as we speak and is an ideal place to wrap up. However I’m very grateful to your time as we speak. I’m very grateful that you’ve recovered, and also you’re thriving, and that you simply’re serving to many different individuals do the identical. Thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks a lot for having me. This was fantastic.

Katie: And thanks as all the time to you, guys, for listening, for sharing your most beneficial belongings, your time and power, and a spotlight with us as we speak. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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